In need of new studio monitors
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2018-08-21 at 22:35:49 #49592,
bunnyonion
ParticipantHi guys, I’m looking to invest in some new studio monitors as I’m finding my KRK Rokit 8s a bit muddy in the mid-sub bass region for mixing on. I’ve heard incredible things about Genelec 8040b’s, but am a bit concerned that the frequency response rolls of around 45hz. The 8050b’s sound kinda ideal rolling off at 35hz, but are also much more expensive.
I could potentially go for smaller ones and get a subwoofer, but have heard that subs can make it very boomy to mix down with. Any thoughts on this?
My room is very large (roughly 14.5ft x 33ft – it’s my living room), but my desk is not ideally setup equidistant from walls and all that.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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2018-08-22 at 01:13:28 #49596,
shrike
ParticipantSennheiser HD650’s, possibly purchased and calibrated from Sonarworks + a SubPac
Not joking.
You’ll save so much heartache & skrilla on treatment and chasing boomy/deadspots, and the accuracy will be 98% better than 2 monitors & a sub, without spending a ton on treatment & room design.
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2018-08-23 at 17:56:19 #49660,
bennett
ParticipantSennheiser HD650’s, possibly purchased and calibrated from Sonarworks + a SubPac
Not joking.
You’ll save so much heartache & skrilla on treatment and chasing boomy/deadspots, and the accuracy will be 98% better than 2 monitors & a sub, without spending a ton on treatment & room design.
More bass in an untreated room will cause you more problems than lack of bass.
Go with the smaller ones and use SPAN or other analysers to reference your sub levels.
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2018-08-22 at 09:01:46 #49604,
Balron
ParticipantI guess I am an ADAM fan now. Had F5, moved to A7X. And they are (were, when I compared years ago) definitely cleaner sounding than KRK.
I do not use sub because of the reasons you mentioned and I kinda dislike spending too much time on room treatment. Lately I’ve been thinking about subpac as well… because it would be nice to have a clear sub.
The headphones idea is nice, but I cannot see myself working on headphones only. The feel from speakers is so much different. Would prefer having small clear speakers and use subwoofer/subpack/headphones just as a helpers.
As Jade told me in a feedback… even with pricey speakers, the sub ain’t reliable unless you got an awesome room. The cheapest/simplest solution is to use an audio analyzer (e.g. Voxengo SPAN) to deal with it.
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2018-08-22 at 10:02:46 #49606,
Target Audience
ParticipantI have KRK rokit 6-s and I’m not really happy with them as well. When it comes to mixing I definately rely more on the visual feedback of Pro-Q rather than the KRK-s.
Before I might suggest anything do you have a certain budget for monitors? Because the great ones can cost an arm and a leg.
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2018-08-22 at 19:05:23 #49629,
shrike
ParticipantI wouldn’t do headphones without a subpac. Subpac is the key, most accurate sub bass response you’ll find, especially for the price.
I swear by it.
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2018-08-22 at 19:09:08 #49630,
Adam
Participanti using presonus eris E5 (300 euro) with sub from old genius 5.1 system :)) monitors have 100 hz cutoff so it works well together.
i think its more about the room, than the monitors. here is some advices from pros:
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2018-08-22 at 23:18:27 #49631,
bunnyonion
ParticipantThanks for the feedback guys, the room is definitely killing the accuracy – I have my monitors against the walls pretty much. It’ll be tricky for me to treat in all honesty but will most likely buy some bass traps soon and try and get it in a better condition. Can’t fault Jade!
Will also do some research on the Subpac, seems like it’d be weird but I guess sub is felt more than heard so that could well be the way to go.
I am willing to spend up to around £2k if it works for me, just want to make sure I make the right decision.
Here’s a kinda rough but also relatively accurate plan of my room: (the orange squares are my KRKs, angled towards me of course). Sorry if this shit is beyond the realms of what sample genie is for but could do with advice on where to place bass traps, maybe move desk etc
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cheers!
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2018-08-23 at 00:22:06 #49637,
shrike
ParticipantIf anyone is truly in the market for a subpac, I can get some discount codes to whittle down the price.
I am friends with the company, and I make no commission on any sales, I just truly believe in the product.
If you’re going to buy one, not just thinking about it, but honestly in the market, email me at
shrikednb
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2018-08-23 at 20:07:16 #49661,
bunnyonion
ParticipantI decided on a pair of Genelec 8050b’s after having a listen to the 8040s in a store today and being blown away. I found a pretty good deal – £1600 for the pair.
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2018-08-23 at 20:20:30 #49662,
shrike
ParticipantCongrats, those are a sound choice
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