joe ford mixdown tutorial
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2018-04-08 at 22:15:29 #41573,bro87Participant
elo all again,just watched the lenzman & joe ford tutorials! i have a question about joe fords tutorial! its about the fab pro limiter! is his levels pre before his completed final mix? as i don’t see him use the gain on fab pro limiter! maybe bit of divy question but just curious to know! but once again have learned a lot from both his and lenzmans tutorials brilliant watch. 😉
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2018-04-09 at 03:44:35 #41578,
shrikeParticipantI think it is, yes. Seems like he pushes everything to the levels that he wants, then uses the proL to catch anything that is going red. No need to ride limiter gain, as he’s got it all baked down as he likes before it hits the limiter.
One thing I’d like to know is whether or not he touches it again at the mastering stage…? Since he’s already hit the levels and freqs he wants, and used every ounce of headroom he has, there’s not much left to apply more limiting to. I mean, he’s throwing it against mastered commercial tracks, not much place left to go after that…?
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2018-04-09 at 16:19:31 #41591,bro87Participant
i see! because i hear that your overall levels on your master channel should at -6dbs!
then with the fab proL use the gain to add the 4+dbs or more to taste! i watched on youtube heist’s tutorial and he drive’s the gain over the 12+dbs for his final overall finish mix and colour as the fab proL does! ive even now have used joe fords settings as he has on span anaylezer and fab proL just to see how my mixes sound! but great knowledge to know its much appreciated! plus i heard you overall drums the level should sit at -10dbs as i heard! its the one thing iv’e struggled with is the mixdowns but its all trial an error! but its great that these tutorials are hear to learn always a great watch! 😀 -
2018-04-09 at 17:29:40 #41593,shrikeParticipant
Some of those standard levels that you are mentioning (like -6dbfs on the master) are more of the conventional approach that works across the board for all styles of music. Leaving headroom for the mastering phase, so that you can get it to sound however you want (loud, punchy, etc).
Joe is taking a very interesting shortcut and just getting it all done in the mix, skipping the step of leaving headroom for a final master. It seems to work very well, and makes a lot of sense for when you are working in genres like dnb, that are just expected to be loud and mixed to certain levels.
For me, he’s kind of taken out some of the voodoo that happens between leaving all that headroom and getting a final loud mix. And I feel like it’s one of those insider secrets that won’t be discussed broadly, and might not even be relevant for all musical styles, but for dnb it’s quite sound.
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2018-04-09 at 18:38:52 #41594,bro87Participant
interesting it all is his basically keeping all his levels loud! hence having the fab proL limter on! around 0dbs then adjusting his levels up and down keeping them as shown on the span anaylizer in there correct frequency range! as well like you mention the short cuts to make drums and the bass elements etc! be put in there own space to achieve a decent mix instead of loading loads vst’s to sidechain everything etc or cut half load up of vsts needed to acheive the result! (y)
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2018-05-03 at 09:01:24 #43243,danny.bragg_93Participant
I recently found out from a Metropolis mastering engineer that the -6dbfs pre master is way too much headroom these days apparently. Then again he’s a pro and probably doesn’t need that much headroom to do his job right.
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