Lamp Sessions (Monthly Challenge #002) – submissions due July 23 at 11:59PM UTC

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    • #46921
      ,Harry
      Participant

      CHALLENGE #002
      This challenge kicks off Season 6 of Sample Genie, and a slight repeat of last month’s challenge, with parameter changes. Write a one & half to three minute demo track (+/- 15 seconds) using any samples from this month of Sample Genie uploads (Season 6 – July 2018), the DC Breaks preview samples for Season 6 (you can download them here: https://soundcloud.com/digitallabz/sets/dc-breaks-sample-genie), and one mono-synth (software or hardware). No other types of synths (including drum synths) or other samples, but get creative with your plug-ins and samplers, heavy resampling, editing & mangling audio is encouraged. You can also use the mono-synth for multiple sounds. If you want to focus on the synth, do that; want to focus on samples, do that; dabble a little with both, do that, the choice is yours.

      You have almost three weeks to write something and upload, and then a week to listen to the other submissions & pick one demo as your favorite, other than your own submission. Feedback on final submissions is encouraged as well, but not required. Just remember “Want feedback? Give feedback.”

      SUBMISSIONS DUE: July 23, 2018 at 11:59 PM UTC
      Find UTC info here: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc

      VOTES DUE: July 30, 2018 at 11:59 PM UTC

      FILE NAME FORMAT: (your artist name) – Lamp Sessions #002 Demo
      Just focus on writing a piece. If you decide to turn it in to a full track later, then give it a name at that point, but for the purpose of this challenge, please use the file name format.

      SUBMIT: Upload a private track on SoundCloud and share the link in this thread any time after July 16, 2018. Please, no work in progress uploads, or “feedback on what I’ve done so far”, just post your one & final submission. Do you, do not worry about how it is shaping up, and if it’s the submission deadline and you only have a one minute clip, post it. Collaborations are okay, but if you post a collab, you cannot also post a solo piece or additional collaborations.

      PRIZE(?!?): The demo with the most votes, will get a free month of Sample Genie next month. Also, congratulations to Balron, the winner of #001 (https://sample-genie.com/topic/lamp-sessions-monthly-challenge-001-submissions-due-june-20-at-1159pm-utc/).

      Any questions, just ask.

      —–
      Got suggestions for future challenges? Get in touch with ideas. There are a few already on the books, and they are not all sample-based track demos, some are more abstract and sound design focused.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #46922
      ,JOPPA
      Participant

      nice im enjoying these thanks for the games

    • #46939
      ,Harry
      Participant

      nice im enjoying these thanks for the games

      Thanks! And thanks for participating too. I have a few lined up for the next few months, and I like to think of them as exercises to get production ideas flowing.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #46983
      ,Mind Zero
      Participant

      What do you consider as a mono-synth? Any synth with the “mono” switch on?

    • #46987
      ,Harry
      Participant

      What do you consider as a mono-synth? Any synth with the “mono” switch on?

      Interesting point since most modern synths do have monophonic modes. I was thinking simple synths that only operate in monophonic mode. Something you would have limited options with, but could record & resample, and then build complex sounds from if you wanted something that sounded like it came from a polyphonic synth. I think a lot of the polyphonic synths that have a mono switch, they still allow multiple voices though? I could be wrong, but thinking in terms of Serum, where you could have it in mono mode, but then an OSC has up to 16 voices.

      Examples would be an SH-101, TB-303, Logic’s ES M, Audio Damage’s Basic, U-He’s Repro-1 (but not the Repro-5, that has 8-voice polyphony).

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #47007
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Outstanding.

      And I have brought many new SG members over from a Joe Ford class we all just took, so there will be more competition this time.

      Monark, from NI is also a thumper of a mono synth. I assume we can use physical mono synths as well? Been meaning to dust off my Moog.

      Good luck SG Massive!

      _-| get to work |-_

    • #47061
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Harry, someone asked me if the patches in this month’s download pack are fair game…?

      I said probably not, but that I would ask you.

      What say ye?

      _-| get to work |-_

    • #47253
      ,Harry
      Participant

      Harry, someone asked me if the patches in this month’s download pack are fair game…?

      I said probably not, but that I would ask you.

      What say ye?

      Just saw this. I guess if you bounced them out with no modifications in Serum, sure?

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #47412
      ,GENIE HQ
      Keymaster

      Good work Harry..

      Indeed the Prize is a free month of membership, but also the chance to have a piece of your music given feedback by as many of our artists (past and present) as possible.

      We’ll pick the Genies most suitable (depending on the style of winner) and send the track to them for their input.

      So definitely a good prize and worth taking part in – Many of these guys have their own labels too, so who knows, if the demo is really good it might go further than feedback … 😉

    • #47459
      ,JOPPA
      Participant

      so whats up with the submissions i guess i will go first with a few hours under my belt as usual good luck

      • #47460
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

      • #47461
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        yeah had to rush it got serious work the next 3 days

      • #47623
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        guy feel fee to friend me on soundcloud use to help out with flight rec. over several years back

    • #47464
      ,Harry
      Participant

      yeah had to rush it got serious work the next 3 days

      I haven’t had much free time the past few weeks, hoping to work up a sketch today. Key thing with these is to push people to work, and keep progressing, even if it’s just a little bit at a time.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #47717
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        for sure brother its always a little at a
        time

    • #47465
      ,Mind Zero
      Participant

      I also had to rush a bit because I’m going on holidays tomorrow but I’m happy with the idea, I’ll try to finish this one after the contest 🙂

      • #47750
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        yeah man nice mixdown

    • #47467
      ,shrike
      Participant

      I will be working up to the deadline on mine. As usual I’ve already made 3 different versions, nothing is great atm.

      _-| get to work |-_

    • #47468
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Hey Harry, if you’re open to challenge ideas, I would LOVE to do a 1 synth challenge.

      Only one synth, of the users choosing, and everything must come out of that. No samples. Only 1 synth for drums, pads, atmos, bass, etc.

      _-| get to work |-_

      • #47559
        ,Harry
        Participant

        That’s definitely on the list. August is going to be a non-demo challenge, more of an sound design / soundscape focus.

        "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #47558
      ,Harry
      Participant

      Today is the day to get your demos submitted!

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #47560
      ,shrike
      Participant

      That’s my wife on vox. Most of this comes from re-sampling NI monark, some from the SG samples.

      _-| get to work |-_

    • #47561
      ,Harry
      Participant

      Demo I knocked together. Not my favorite sketch, but going to take a few of the resampled sounds and use in a future project for sure. Also, used Audio Damage’s Basic for my monophonic synth, made the bass with it.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #47622
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        nice work

    • #47562
      ,Struktcha
      Participant

      Threw a few hours at this a couple days ago. It’s pretty simple, especially the bass, but I thought I’d submit anyway.
      I tried to use the code to embed soundcloud, but got a 403 error when I tried to submit, so here’s a regular link.

      • #47567
        ,Harry
        Participant

        Made a quick edit to your post, so the embedded Soundcloud showed up. The forum software on Sample Genie, you just post the SoundCloud link and it shows up, no need for wrapping it in BBCode.

        "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #47616
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        i like the tune

      • #47621
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        reminds me of dillinja lol

    • #47563
      ,Balron
      Participant

      Eh, I almost missed the deadline. Not trying to be sneaky, just my time management was pretty bad. This time I started something else because I liked the wobbly bass, but I kinda lost breath with it..

      https://soundcloud.com/balron

    • #47571
      ,Target Audience
      Participant

      Unfortunately I had to put focus on getting my other tracks ready for BEC demo submission and more other stuff I had to do so I did not have time to participate in this one (many sad faces).

      But awesome stuff guys, good work!! Really bass heavy this month and I love hearing that. I vibe Shrike and Balron tracks. Shrike for his energy in the track and Balron’s bass is just crazy good (especially the crunchy layer in there). Both have good mixdowns as well and difficult to pick which one I like more but if my vote is accountable then I would vote for Shrike.

      • #47576
        ,Balron
        Participant

        Thanks, glad you liked mine as well 😉

        https://soundcloud.com/balron

    • #47575
      ,Balron
      Participant

      Damn, once again it’s tough to pick just one. Will need to keep listening to them a bit more.

      Harry: Would it be possible to add a rule to make these downloadable (next time)? I would like to dl and make a playlist, so I can listen to all the entries easily on repeat/shuffle.

      https://soundcloud.com/balron

    • #47577
      ,Harry
      Participant

      Damn, once again it’s tough to pick just one. Will need to keep listening to them a bit more.

      Harry: Would it be possible to add a rule to make these downloadable (next time)? I would like to dl and make a playlist, so I can listen to all the entries easily on repeat/shuffle.

      I’ll run it by the main guys at Sample Genie, might depend on the particular challenge. A bit of a learning process coming up with challenges and submission guidelines. I can say I have about 10 or so challenge ideas ready to go, and August is going to be a sound design / soundscape challenge.

      Also, I could make a playlist during each month and edit the OP to have it posted as people submit their demos. I think I have mine set for download though, and maybe Shrike does too? And you might be able to ask other members to send a download link, if they’re okay with sending.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #47579
        ,Balron
        Participant

        Sure I can ask everybody every time, but I won’t. That is a really ineffective way of doing stuff 🙂
        If you want to manage a playlist, it’s good enough for me 😉

        https://soundcloud.com/balron

    • #47580
      ,shrike
      Participant

      I make my SC links downloadable, every time, for general purpose. So there is one down.

      _-| get to work |-_

    • #47581
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Balron you are just killing it, son

      _-| get to work |-_

      • #47620
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        critique

      • #47634
        ,shrike
        Participant

        Not my vote, just a general note. I’ll bust out the critiques soon.

        _-| get to work |-_

      • #47716
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        yeah man i got you i dunno baltrons tune sounds clean

    • #47626
      ,Balron
      Participant

      struktcha
      It was tough, but I can only vote one 🙂

      Like the oldschool vibe. The intro has a nice atmo, but lacks a buildup imo. Although I guess this is more of a ‘roller’ type of track, so it’s ok 🙂
      I am suprised by how well is the small kick working here – my kicks are usually too loud or big. On the other hand… the snare sounds ok, but the ‘oldschool vibe’ could use different kind of snare (bigger and in lower freq…with more crash?).
      Also, it feels like some of the synth hits in background are a bit off tempo. I would like them more a bit quieter to keep focus on the main bassline, which provides the main ‘vibe’.
      Overall mixdown is nice and there’s nothing that would annoy me 🙂

      Nice work.

      https://soundcloud.com/balron

    • #47736
      ,Mind Zero
      Participant

      · Joppa: That filtered sample in the intro is quite annoying for me. The build-up is a bit poor and the last 32 bars before the drop makes it sound less powerful. The basses sounds wide and heavy and the drum groove is nice.
      · Shrike: The intro is a bit heavy for me. The breakdown after it has a nice atmosphere and rises good until the drop. I like that hypnotic sounds in the drop, but it feels a bit repetitive after some time.
      The overall mixdown is pretty good, maybe I would brighten up the hats a bit but the basses sounds good (in my headphones, I don’t have monitors)
      · R4NSOM: Although I think the track is all about progression, I feel like the intro could be a bit more interesting. The drums sit perfectly in the mix and the bass is also sounding great. Maybe I would like to hear some more variations across the track.
      · Struktcha: Love that old school kind of bass, reminds me a bit of some old Bad Company. Maybe you could use some effects to hide a bit the sounds that are going to be all over the track, like using reverb or something, just to have a bit more of impression when it drops later. The snare feels a bit weak for this kind of tune and the groove could be a lot better in my opinion. I would take down a bit the effects and the synths across the track and give them more space.
      · Balron: Creepy intro working really good. I love the whole drums and low end section, sounds amazing, but the synths and high basses you are using there are quite annoying for me, it makes the track lose the rolling movement you have created with the rest of the elements, after 01:09 is the kind of thing that I would like to hear in this track.

      I tried to focus on the “bad” things as I like to have my feedbacks like that in order to improve, but all of guys did a great work with this one, glad to see there’s a lot of talent here!!

      My vote this time goes to R4NSOM

      • #47749
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        thanks for the feed back i need to just upgrade to cubase i use to rewire back in the day got really clean mix downs im just to lazy to do all the work now a days

      • #48070
        ,Harry
        Participant

        Thanks for the feedback Mind Zero, and you can cast a vote for another participant as I’m exempt from the prize. Will add a note for future challenges about Genies and forum moderators being exempt.

        As for my demo, if it was getting pushed to a full project I would definitely give the intro more attention.

        "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #48071
      ,Harry
      Participant

      I’ll post some feedback later, kind of in a time crunch right now, but giving a vote for Mind Zero‘s demo, although I really like how Balron’s bass has this sizzle to it that I keep thinking about.

      Also, I’ll post a timeline for the next few month’s challenges, there is one in particular (December!) that participants will want to have some sounds created for before the start date.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #48079
        ,Mind Zero
        Participant

        Thanks for the vote man, appreciate it!! If I have to change my vote then it will go to Balron

    • #48076
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Joppa– Bro that intro sound only makes me the tiniest bit insane. THere is some good stuff in here, esp starting around 1min when it really picks up. I think you could push that low sub fundamental much harder, and then the kick and the snare, but that is mixing stuffs. The groove has some good potential, fairly rolly.

      Mind Zero – It’s a nice groove, mixing is a little reserved, I think you could get more out of that lowest note. The whole thing is probably a little too polite for me, which is an extremely subjective thing. Everything is just kind of laid back and small, but I think that is the intent…? Minimal stylee? You always have some great stuff, and the craftsmanship is very apparent. Nicely done.

      Harry – I really like that snare. Transient holds up throughout. Also a fairly minimal vibe, which is just not my area of expertise. Everything is well mixed and flows nicely. Fun little side sounds, lots for the ear to “eat”.

      Struktcha – welcome to the party…I love the talky wide mid sound that scrapes through every now and then at the drop. I think there is a lot of good stuff, just needs some work on the mix. The drums are a little dry and reserved, I think they could be pushed a little more, to be a little more aggressive. This will sound a little strange, it’s my best way to explain: At the moment they feel like they are “pasted” onto a window ride in the front of the stage, and it might help to give them a little air…maybe a few small reverbs just to give a sense of depth, and then you might try and sat them a little for some more overtones. More volume, and not the “gain” kind of volume, but the space kind.

      Balron – dark & intense, even with the mostly minimal elements. That sub is mixed pretty damned well, comes through well in the variety of listening conditions that I applied to it.

      My vote is Balron. What can I say, I am a fan.

      _-| get to work |-_

      • #48078
        ,Mind Zero
        Participant

        Thanks for the feedback bro! It’s kind of a minimal thing yeah, very inspired by the likes of Skeptical and maybe Arkaik, and the mix is a shit honestly but I didn’t had time to focus on it hahhaha

      • #48863
        ,Adam
        Participant

        maybe little advice …. make loop, then make mix (focus on loudness), then make rest of the track. final mix will be pretty easy to finish. when u make a quiet track and after it wanna make final mix, it will be damn hard to finish.

    • #48944
      ,Harry
      Participant

      Waiting to hear from the Genies, also six participants (JUAN/Joppa City, Mind Zero, Shrike, R4NS0M, Struktcha, and Balron). JUAN and Struktcha didn’t vote yet, and so far Balron has 2, Mind Zero and Struktcha have 1 each.

      Going to post Challenge #003 so people can get a jump on it.

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #49005
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        i vote baltron then

    • #49050
      ,GENIE HQ
      Keymaster

      Hi Guys another interesting set of tunes for sure! Well done and thanks for taking part.

        Feedback:

      Juan,

      A strong reese which is mixed nicely forward, making it the main feature, together with the simple beats make this very ‘Drum & Bass’, stripped back stuff can always be a good formula.
      The feeling is here it’s now a bit too simplistic, quite old school. Not enough edge, surprise and energy to carry of this style of track with this kind of sound board. Listen through music by PROLIX to get an idea of how to switch up the arrangement and bring elements in and out – also how leads work with basses to add tension and ‘musicality’ to the tune.
      Perhaps last months feedback on your 001 submission has caused to you to go too far with stripping back and simplifying? Maybe next you’re looking for something halfway between 001 and 002 to find that magic formula?

      Mind Zero,

      We love this one. Such a vibe on the intro, really draws the listener in.
      Perhaps the drop is a bit sudden and bit of a change? Maybe bringing down or fading out the intro pad earlier and transitioning into a more simple rise will give the drop more clarity and impact when it comes in.
      The main tune moves along really nicely. The riff is catchy and deep, very hypnotic.
      Overall this tune needs a bit of a bigger mix to really do it justice. More presence, bit more volume and precision throughout – but that can take serious amounts of time to get minimal tunes sounding like that, so understandable on a demo like this it’s more about the music.
      Potential here for a cool tune. Finish this!

      Shrike,

      Wicked texture and top end work on this, the crunch and fuzz is very nice on the ear!
      Tune wise has some great elements and definitely not a standard track, very techy and actually quite Psy sounding which is hardly done in dnb so good work there. The mix needs some real clarity for it to really work – the Psy crowd are obsessed with clarity and purity, this tune would do well to be like that. Snare needs to cut through a bit more, as does the kick and more sub in the bass.
      Definitely a curve ball tune and that is most welcome. It would be interesting to hear more of this style.

      Ransom,

      Sick drum pattern, really infectious groove. Nicely mixed beats overall too. Needs more sub and also maybe some more interesting elements in the mid bass. What texture can be created that’s fresh? Even if just for half a bar at the end of every 16 / 32.. something that teases us and sounds like 2019 and then goes away again, we get our heads back into the beat hoping for that bass to return, and it does.. maybe Spend some hours processing bass sounds, pitch enveloping them too to make a fresh sounding turn-around bass samples for this tune.

      Struktcha,

      Cool vibes, really dark funky business. Great work!
      Nice grooves and sound choices. Maybe a little too many peripheral hits happening around the place, distracting from the main meat and bones? Working on that mix, beefing up everything will mean less need to lean on the incidental sounds to make it interesting.
      The drum pattern could perhaps do with some surprises hear and there, also a bit more impact in the drums overall would be nice.

      Balron,

      Epic engineering on this, Sounds huge. Very clear and It’s fair to say the feedback you’ve had from Jade and maybe Prolix too (if it arrived in time!) after your 001 win has made an enormous difference to your mixes. The Sub is on a whole different level!
      The completely 180 degree out of phase sounds at the end is a nice touch for the technical producers to appreciate – sounds that vanish in mono and re-appear in stereo, but their absence doesn’t ruin the tune…clever stuff which hasn’t gone unnoticed!
      While this is technically a very impressive tune, it maybe lacks a little bit of soul and vibe perhaps? Maybe some music elements and groove updates could really elevate this track to something CRITICAL or INVISIBLE.

      So our votes are 2 votes for Mind Zero and 1 vote for Balron.
      But this months tunes are all very cool and already a step up conceptually from last month.
      Keep it up!

      • #49066
        ,Mind Zero
        Participant

        Thanks for the feedback!! It motivates me to finish the tune, and the votes mean a lot to me

      • #49082
        ,JOPPA
        Participant

        yes thanmk you guys all that participated . i love this shit lol

    • #49071
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Thank you, Genie(s), for taking the time to give such thorough feedback for everyone.

      Nice work all, this is a talented bunch. Excited to start working on the next challenge.

      MOTIVATE!!!

      _-| get to work |-_

    • #49072
      ,Harry
      Participant

      Also, re: Balron’s request for a playlist, I looked in to what could be done with what was already uploaded for this challenge, but Soundcloud did not have an option to compile a play list. I’ll try and figure out a way to make play lists for future challenges, but right now hitting a roadblock. Future system might have to be some sort of submission to one account, and then that account would create a playlist?

      "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #49174
      ,Balron
      Participant

      Thanks everyone for the votes and feedback! I am surprised I got so many… and having Critical or Invisible mentioned anywhere near next to my stuff is mindblowing 🙂

      I personally am kinda unhappy with both of my entries so far – mostly because of the mixdown, which is my long lasting nightmare. But this also works as a motivation for these challenges – since the last month, I got feedback from Jade and Prolix, which was great. Together with the feedback from you guys, it helps me move step by step towards a better production. Hopefully one day, I will be able to fall asleep without thinking about clashing frequencies, loudness, dynamics and muddy sound 🙂

      https://soundcloud.com/balron

      • #49175
        ,Harry
        Participant

        And phase cancellation!

        Every sketch, project, experiment session, there is something new to learn.

        "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

    • #49187
      ,GENIE HQ
      Keymaster

      What are the final vote counts here?

      • #49188
        ,Harry
        Participant

        Balron – 5
        Mind Zero – 3
        Struktcha – 1

        "Knowledge kept is knowledge lost." - Bobbito Garcia

      • #49192
        ,Mind Zero
        Participant

        It’s 4 for Balron I think bro

      • #49196
        ,GENIE HQ
        Keymaster

        Ok well we are suitably impressed with Both Mind Zero and Baldon this month, so we’re making an unexpected exception!
        Both artists will receive Feedback from one of our Genie’s and also a free month’s membership 😀

      • #49209
        ,Mind Zero
        Participant

        Wooowww amazing!! Thanks a lot, I’m glad you liked it that much.

    • #49208
      ,shrike
      Participant

      Congrats to both the winners!

      _-| get to work |-_

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