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shrikeParticipantSend an email to: [email protected]
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,shrikeParticipantYup, this class series is SG at its finest, IMO.
If you missed first time around, you should really consider picking it up.
Really great stuff!
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,shrikeParticipantWhich tutorial? QZB has done a few.
And the likely answer is that yes, it was released with the sample pack at the time, which means it is no longer available. Getting things like this is a perk of being a live member at the time of a class release. There will be more of these types of things in the future.
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,shrikeParticipantWho’s got an enormous what, now?
😀
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,shrikeParticipantWelcome!
These are some great past classes to get you up and running on the mix front…these are the ones I like, others may have different choices:
Joe Ford Mixdown Workshop (start here!)
QZB Minimalism modules I & II
DC Breaks Bass Design & Process
State of Mind – Workflow with Bass (big big sounds!)
Jade & Mindscape – Neuro Bass (one of my faves for beginners)That is enough to get you started, have fun and work hard!
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,shrikeParticipantNice 1, Harry!
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,shrikeParticipantNice one, Martial
Here’s a nasty little thing, created and re-sampled from all manner of nasty little things:
https://soundcloud.com/the_shrike/sh-nastylittlething/s-KT6Yq
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,shrikeParticipantHey Jards-
Yeah this stuff can be tricky to get your head around. I’m not sure I fully understand your q’s, but I will try my best to help:I’d say you can consider anything in the E0-G#1 low sub, and from A1-G#2 high sub, and then after that, yeah I would call it mid bass (100-200hz range). Some roll top of midbass off as 150hz, some 175hz, and a few all the way up to 200hz.
This chart can be very useful:
http://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html
Generally speaking, you want your low end to look like this:
-lowest fundamental (your low sub) is the loudest, and to get loudness, this one is licking 0dbfs. This one needs energy priority.
-second fundamental is backed off a fair amount, so that it doesn’t steal energy from the low sub.
-third fundamental, which is a close second in importance behind the low sub, is back up again, maybe even double what the 2nd was, so that you get that full sounding midbass.
It could end up looking something like this:
Now, where to freq split and process? Yeah, this is definitely handled differently according to artist. I generally split out 150hz and below, treat the whole thing to get my bass where I want it (often some saturation or distortion, but only the kind that makes it louder…it falls apart if pushed too hard), then I sculpt it out via EQ. If I need get really surgical, I split 70hz and below, as my low sub tends to fall in the ~40-50hz range.
Your mileage may vary, none of these are fixed rules, no warranty included.
I hope that helps. Let me know if you have more q’s.
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,shrikeParticipantWell congrats to FREEMAN! Step right up and claim your giant stuffed teddy bear prize, and also email to: [email protected].
Thanks everyone for playing, I hope you all got something out of this.
Check out the new Challenge #12, freshly posted, and let’s roll the beats again…
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,shrikeParticipantFaaaaaaaakkkkkkkke
So good, as always.
Let’s get some votes folks, doesn’t matter whether you participated or not.
Really down to Freeman & Fake, and they’ve each done a fackin good job in my estimation.
Honestly these could each take the title, but I’m gonna vote FREEMAN
VOTE!
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,shrikeParticipantFreeman! That is rad man, esp given that it came from one shitty little sample! And that nod to the original sample at the end is classic. TOP WORK.
My entry below, it is seriously lacking in structure, but it did what I needed it to do, for me, which was to LEARN.
I know this one was hard. I hope you learned a little to a lot. Thanks to all who participated. Next challenge up soon!
https://soundcloud.com/the_shrike/sh-lampsessions11-singlesample-wip02/s-2z6iS
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,shrikeParticipantFor sure, Serum is cleaner than those two synths, which were released in 2007. Serum was developed and released in the 2013-2014 timeframe.
But Serum still aliases pretty noticeably. It’s not really a concern as we often lay all kinds of distortion and FX over it anyways, but in that init single saw OSC it kind of screams at me. UVI Falcon is cleaner than that (again, later release), and the new-ish bx-oberhausen is *super* clean, relatively speaking. (I’m really digging that synth, btw…seems simple, but there is actually a lot it can do)
I would expect that over the years, the simple saws will get even cleaner. Interesting point about the aliasing of the first massive being kind of a positive characteristic, no doubt.
Kilohearts makes some really great stuff. Interested to try the PhasePlant synth. I own KHs ONE, but never really got into it as it seemed a little too vanilla. I am also keen to try the upcoming Unfiltered Audio Lion synth. Unfiltered makes some rad FX plugs, BYOME for instance is highly versatile & creative.
NI has to be competitive with whatever they bring out. They are not the only kid on the block now, like they were for the better part of the 2000’s (and the ’90’s).
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,shrikeParticipantAppreciate that detailed feedback, Fake.
I’ve been in a “fuck you” mode with NI for the last week, as they locked my Komplete serial number, and when I tried to get it fixed their CS said I needed to purchase a product that I purchased two years ago. Their customer service is capable of being nuclear-terrible. The company is just too big.
But I digress, could you please be a little more specific about why you think it sounds so good? Better OSC? Less aliasing? More/higher quality waves? I know I can try the demo; interested in your particular take.
And the thing has been a UI nightmare from the jump. That LFO switcher alone is just a big fat fail. Might as well take up the entire GUI.
And I feel you on the Serum thing. Make no mistake, I love me some Serum, but the aliasing alone just kills me. I reckon we are due for a Serum 2 sometime soon. It’s been several years now, hopefully Mr Duda has something cooking in his lab.
Thanks Fake!
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,shrikeParticipantHappy to have you, Cymbalist
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,shrikeParticipantNice! Well done, sounds great.
If you guys give me your email addresses, I will add you as someone who can edit (and thus upload) to the dropbox. I’m not sure how to make it fully shared with just a shared link.
You can post your email here, or if you don’t want to do that (and I fully understand) you can ping me at:
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shrikednb
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gmail.com
—Hit me up, I will add anyone to the list.
Glad this helped, Freeman!
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